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Welcome to the AM/PM Podcast hosted by Kevin King! Where we explore opportunities in E-commerce, we dream big, and we discover what’s working right now. This is the podcast where money never sleeps! Join Kevin as he sits down with top experts and sellers to talk about all things E-commerce and entrepreneurship. The things discussed in this ‘must listen’ podcast you won’t find anywhere else. New episodes are released every Thursday. Subscribe today.
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Thursday Apr 10, 2025
Thursday Apr 10, 2025
Amazon’s top global seller reveals 3 keys to success, how brands can scale without giving up control, and game-changing AI and logistics strategies.
Imagine unlocking the secret to skyrocketing your brand's e-commerce growth without sacrificing ownership. In our conversation with Rob Hahn, the Chief Operating Officer of Pattern, we promise you'll uncover strategies that could transform your approach to selling on Amazon. With Pattern's model, which focuses on acceleration rather than aggregation, you’ll learn how brands can maintain control while scaling their market presence. Rob provides a unique perspective on how Pattern's advanced technology, coupled with their expertise in fulfillment and logistics, empowers brands to flourish both domestically and globally.
Our discussion also takes you behind the scenes of Amazon's logistics revolution. Join us as Rob shares stories from his time as a former Amazon executive, highlighting the company's remarkable journey from relying on third-party logistics to developing its own delivery network. This shift not only gave Amazon a competitive advantage over rivals like Walmart but also reshaped the landscape for sellers navigating its complex logistics system. We discuss the intricacies of Amazon's fulfillment network and how recent changes have pushed many sellers to rethink their strategies, favoring those with substantial resources.
Finally, we explore the transformative power of AI and data-driven strategies in e-commerce. Discover how Pattern stays ahead of the competition by investing heavily in AI to predict market trends and optimize logistics. We dive into the competitive landscape of global e-commerce and the enormous growth potential that still exists. With insights into Pattern’s innovative approaches and a sneak peek into their upcoming Accelerate event in Salt Lake City, this episode is packed with valuable takeaways for brands looking to amplify their e-commerce journey. Don’t miss the chance to learn how you can leverage these insights for your brand's success.
In episode 442 of the AM/PM Podcast, Kevin and Rob discuss:
- 00:00 - The Pattern E-commerce Accelerator
- 03:44 - Marketplace Growth Strategies With Established Brands
- 07:28 - Scaling Brand Growth Through Partnership
- 08:38 - Amazon Fulfillment Advantage
- 13:27 - Evolving Complexity of Amazon FBA
- 18:29 - Amazon Career to Startup Success
- 18:40 - Evolution of Amazon's Logistics System
- 28:33 - Amazon's Cost Center and Logistics Focus
- 29:40 - Logistics Complexity in Amazon Fulfillment
- 30:45 - Amazon's Two-Tiered Crosstalk System
- 35:38 - Evolving Trends in E-Commerce
- 36:21 - Leveraging Data and Insights for Success
- 39:06 - Data, Insights, and Actions Explained
- 42:44 - AI and E-Commerce Competition Future
- 43:48 - Impact of AI on E-Commerce Operations
- 49:58 - E-Commerce Growth and Opportunities
- 54:13 - Kevin King's Words of Wisdom